tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9006673250886122803.post9085589531088738548..comments2023-04-24T10:58:04.691-04:00Comments on The Monk who Stole the Cow: Legionaries as Diocesan PriestsJack Keoghhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17382043901379998330noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9006673250886122803.post-45478079139593956062011-12-30T04:36:29.322-05:002011-12-30T04:36:29.322-05:00I am in touch as well with many of the ex-LC pries...I am in touch as well with many of the ex-LC priests here in the US. As a former brother, I must there is a generational difference, particularly with not knowing Fr. Maciel as well. <br /><br />However, I would like to comment that the Cardinal's slow approach is not bad - reforming the Constitution is not something that can be overnighted via FedEx! Little details, like priests and brothers wearing the clerical shirt (not the suit) in public venues is one sign that renewal is there already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9006673250886122803.post-15577673453867158352011-06-10T12:01:30.144-04:002011-06-10T12:01:30.144-04:00My recollection is that Cardinal de Paolis in a lo...My recollection is that Cardinal de Paolis in a long letter last summer to Legionaries said, more or less, that now is not the time for members to pursue new paths for themselves because it is never good to make such decisions in times of turmoil; therefore, let's be patient and, all together, look afresh at our religious consecration in light of the charism given by God to the congregation.<br /><br />Nevertheless, since that time some very prominent Legionaries have decided that it's time to leave: Frs. Gill and Oriol, perhaps most notably. It appears they believe that renewal isn't possible. <br /><br />Is it not possible that this tension - let's see this through all together v. it's time for me to go - is what de Paolis and the Holy Father foresaw when the former was appointed Apostolic Delegate?<br /><br />It strikes me that de Paolis is deliberately handling things the way he is in order to give LC's a sort of interregnum in which, either, genuine institutional renewal will emerge as an impetus from within or, alternatively, the impetus simply won't materialize and those who are sincere about serving the Church will have had time to reach a decision to serve her elsewhere.<br /><br />I'm not arguing with the approach. It may be the best and only way to proceed. But, it certainly means that he is not there to lead, so much as to preside as a kind of caretaker.<br /><br />Anon xLCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9006673250886122803.post-25259901970935698372011-06-08T19:48:26.220-04:002011-06-08T19:48:26.220-04:00""I'm in touch with most of the 27 o...""I'm in touch with most of the 27 or so Americans who have left since the '09 revelations and others of recent years-" Monk's friend quoted in the post. <br /><br />Thank you for that number. I'm interested in knowing how many LCs this leaves in the US. I don't place much trust in the Legion's numbers, claiming for years to have 800 LC priests worldwide, but I can't offer a more accurate figure. Can Monk or anyone else provide an idea of how many LCs are left in the US? <br /><br />One element of this Legionary mess that could have serious consequences for the congregation is that there has been much discussion about cultural differences between, say, Americans and Mexicans, and how these differences affect the way each group handles the scandal. Speaking for myself as a now ex member of RC, I was struck early on by the realization that I had very little in common, culturally, with Mexican RCs. Why had it seemed so appealing to me at one time that there was so much emphasis on the Hispanic cultural side of L/R? I am not knocking it, just commenting that, to be honest, I simply don't identify with the Mexican roots of L/R. As so much of the outrage expressed since '09 has been among American L/Rs, I wonder if this won't eventually become a large factor in the demise of the L/R within the US, if not elsewhere. I guess I should include Spain in my projections as well, since things have slid rather rapidly there as well. <br /><br />Sorry so long, I was really only hoping to ask what the remaining number of LCs in the US might be? <br /><br />JudyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com